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I wonder whether the issue Cdl McElroy raises is not worthy of a new look. Surely what we now know about the LGBTQ state is far from what we knew when the current teaching was developed. Moreover, as a further example of the gravity assessment obsessing over sexual sin while failing to even recognize the sin of slavery for almost 400 years raises serious gravity issues.

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I read this and read the article that you wrote for Where Peter Is. I had read Cardinal McElroy's statement and had been disappointed by it and had intended to write to him, which I have not done. I do not know if he would have read my letter, since I am a nobody. I appreciate the point you make in Where Peter Is. My criticism would have followed along the same lines. I do appreciate Cardinal McElroy and continue to think that his voice is an important and non-heretic voice as some have charged him, but your disagreement with him on this point is correct.

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To Paul Fahey, In uncertainty, I believe that "Where Peter Is" as a group of psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members is infected by your article to which your post refers with occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate grooming by you as a diseased family member 'familyist' for economic advantage of your family by tax-exemption embezzlement and insurance fraud with a non-economic status inducement of a "higher way of love" (Bishop Robert Barron) or "higher vocation" (Pope St John Paul 11's Council for the Family 'teaching' document, TTMHS, 1995, 35) of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God.

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As I note relevant to this issue about Cardinal McElroy.

I was at school in the UK with the seventh child of Evelyn Waugh, Septimus, who was in our roman catholic church All Hallows boarding preparatory school "Panthers" scouts' cub pack which I led in 1955.

Bishop Barron's subjective position on what he purports to presume is the objective is illustrated by his position on consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ as a "higher way of love" (time 50:50 of his interview by Lex Fridman in mid-2022 on: "Christianity and the Catholic Church") than consecrated male female marriage vowed to God.

Subjective and objective are inseparable and qualitatively equal the keeping of which is in uncertainty belief.

Barron's groomed non-economic false "higher way" status inducement is neither beautiful, good or true but utilitarian in practice and in ethics for economic advantage by tax-exemption embezzlement and lower insurance costs by fraud for families of the groomers.

As a promised, not consecrated, celibate, Barron cannot keep or allow covenant, non-presumed reciprocity; that is, inseparability and qualitative equality, but instead is consequential in his utilitarian practice and ethics. Barron posits a utilitarian consequential progression from the beautiful to the good to the true instead of a multiplier effect as in economics of keeping inseparability and qualitative equality of process and progress.

Barron is incapable of seeing that the clerical sexual abuse as occult or hidden in incest connected substitute mate is out occulted by consecrated male female marriage vowed to God as much as by consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ in each out occulting on the reference point of the other.

So, the joining of Pope Francis in consecrated celibate marriage is on the reference point of consecrated male female marriage as Mary's consecrated male female marriage with St Joseph vowed to God was on the reference point of her consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ.

It was on the feast-day of St Joseph, 19 March 2013 that Pope Francis commenced his pontificate in his homily for the mass correcting the occult, incest connected inversion of trust in misrepresentation of the direction and both subject and object of entrusting in the Vatican Council 2 "Declaration on Christian Education", GE, 1965, 3 as from parents to "those others" when in fact from the helpers of the family to the families of consecrated marriages either celibate or male female.

Barron's conduct reveals how occult, incest connected evil can masquerade as the beautiful, the good and the true.

We will not witness accountability and amends from Barron while he is not joined in a consecrated celibate or male female marriage,

This is unlike Pope Francis on or just after 10 June 2021 in his accountability and amends for his failures prior to been elected Pope on 19 March 2013.

Pope Francis in his ensuring and his insuring was accountable and made amends respectively in the cases in the:

(a) Vatican state group of citizens/employees, including Cardinal Angelo Becciu, as alleged embezzlers of his ensuring procreation role gift charity donations as a helper of his family within his family,

(b) Italian state Parliament of the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill as an unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring his need of union of his identity as a consecrated celibate married by vows to man in Christ.

In both these cases Pope Francis acted on the reference point of consecrated male female marriages vowed to God, including of Mary with St Joseph recorded at Matthew 1:24-25.

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"progressive process" relating to marriage and eucharist is a contradiction as in marriage process as ensuring and progress as insuring are inseparable and qualitatively equal the keeping of which as only possible by those joined in consecrated marriages, either celibate vowed to man in Christ or male female vowed to God, is in uncertainty belief as illustrated by Pope Francis on or just after 10 June 2021 in the matters of:

(a) the Italian Parliament "Zan" anti-homophobia bill as an unacceptable risk of fraud on his insuring his need of union of his identity as a consecrated celibate married by his vows to man in Christ,

(b) his Vatican state ensuring procreation role gift charity donations as a helper of his family within his family alleged embezzled by Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees.

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I don’t see it that way. I think he made these comments in the context of the continental round of the synod preparation. As such they should go into the discernment process allowing the Holy Spirit to move as it will.

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